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PostSubject: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:11 am

Because it's been a week, and Wynn's and Lyna's subforums are still down. It goes without saying that Wynn's corner has had more activity in the past year then all the other subforums combined, and to have it suddenly go down like this is not good for the forum. Also because Wynn is the best charmer, so she deserves to have her section running again Wynn

Also Kaze, I speak for both myself and Fuuma when I say if there's anything we can do to help you speed this process along, please let us know. We're both online every day lately and we can try to look into things if you're too busy or something.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:42 am

Well yeah... I too, am curious about what's going on. See Kaze, At one time you came to chatbox and said there's a problem with Wynn and Lyna subforum, which you decide to 'hide' so it could have a maintenance. At the very least, please let us know what's going on and what's the problem, make an announcement about it. Or like Hippo said, if there's anything we can do, please let us know.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:16 pm

Woah, im missing something here... I dunno why the other charmer's corner down, but i hope there is no something terrible. I hope they can back soon so i can post my artwork again :')

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:54 am

@Garaito: Congrats on making 1000 posts, mate! Even though it's in this thread of all places.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:50 pm

oh yeah. lol, i dont realize that. thanks for it, hippo (y)

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:56 am

Happy 1st of August everyone! ...and the forum sections still haven't been restored yet. I've tried to keep this thread light-hearted, but this is really starting to worry me.

Kaze, wherever you are, PLEASE log in again and fix this so-called "bug". This is your forum and you are the only admin, so I would think this would be a high priority for you.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Tue Aug 02, 2016 11:05 am

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Happy 1st of August everyone! ...and the forum sections still haven't been restored yet. I've tried to keep this thread light-hearted, but this is really starting to worry me.

Kaze, wherever you are, PLEASE log in again and fix this so-called "bug". This is your forum and you are the only admin, so I would think this would be a high priority for you.


Probably he's just busy with real life activity. All we can do now is wait until he returned and at the very least, explained what's going on (and hopefully finished the maintenance).

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:20 am

Wow I am online again for once and the first thing I see is 2 broken Areas, not nice.
Hmm let's just hope that Eria got this under control. If the areas were stil accessible (ie. I could try to get in and look at the error) I could have tried to discern the problem (not an expert but it IS part of my future profession). So... Eria, lets hope you get the time to fix this.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:42 am

Wow, nice to see you again Yami! Hopefully you'll stick around, even though you can't post in those subforums right now.

Thanks for your offer, but as we mentioned before only the admin has power to perform such technical edits (not even us mods can do anything about it).

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Wed Aug 10, 2016 12:26 pm

There's a lot of people returning huh?
Maybe I should return writing deck list and all :v

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:00 am

Y'know, more forum activity may not be a bad idea right now. ...Well, technically it's never a bad idea, but it may be more relevant now that those subforums are incomplete to try and re-populate the others. We need to show that we care about this place again, and hopefully Kaze will hear our support and use it as incentive to fix the bug faster.
So start writing those deck lists, catty! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:46 am

Now this makes me wonder about something.


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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:53 pm

Wow, talk about a conspiracy if I ever saw one  Shocked
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I'm sounding pretty pessimistic by this point, but these things really just have to be said. We need to get to the bottom of this.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:28 am

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Wow, talk about a conspiracy if I ever saw one  Shocked
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I'm sounding pretty pessimistic by this point, but these things really just have to be said. We need to get to the bottom of this.


This is why I said :

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:00 am

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This is why I said :

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And to answer your post...


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It very well may have been a guess, but the fact that you thought about it means that there's a chance you believe it. And the fact that you posted it the way you did kinda did make it sound like you were serious about it. If you weren't serious, you would've posted it much differently, maybe not in a spoiler or using different words, or maybe not even have posted it at all. I mean, you are a mod, so we should take you seriously, right? Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:32 am

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It very well may have been a guess, but the fact that you thought about it means that there's a chance you believe it. And the fact that you posted it the way you did kinda did make it sound like you were serious about it. If you weren't serious, you would've posted it much differently, maybe not in a spoiler or using different words, or maybe not even have posted it at all. I mean, you are a mod, so we should take you seriously, right? Wink


It's still not my final thought on what's actually going on, though. Still, it's up to you about what you want to think about it.


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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Mon Aug 22, 2016 5:36 pm

wow you two made a conspiracy-like guessing (?) lol. i think these was serious. lol. perhaps you can make it into a story?

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:33 am

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wow you two made a conspiracy-like guessing (?) lol. i think these was serious. lol. perhaps you can make it into a story?
Not sure what you mean exactly, but honestly nobody knows what's going on until Kaze logs back in again. And no can do anything either until that time. There's no real stories to tell here.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sat Sep 17, 2016 7:00 pm

Fixed now and thanks for the idea about making the forum to be more like Charmer Forum!

But, the bug that prevents people to log in after they registered is vicious though (just fixed that too).

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sun Sep 18, 2016 8:32 am

@Eria : First of all, welcome back.


So I've been looking around this forum for a while and... yeah. You sure clean things up and this time it looks more tidy. Many of the threads were lost but there is a replacement for it. And the biggest thing that surprised me is... there's actually a bug that doesn't allow new registered user to register immediately, and it's been there for more than a year?! It's... shocking.


But glad the bug is gone. Now new members can log in again and... in case you still care about this community's growth, then some invitation need to be done. And if you don't mind, can I made some statement in Charmer Forum FB page regarding what happened to this forum before?


Anyway, not sure when you will read and reply this. Maybe in 8 months, 5 days, or 3 minutes. Just... take as much time as you want.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:45 am

I approved the pending registered members so they're able to login now (they should get notification email). Yes, you can speak in that FB page.

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Mon Sep 19, 2016 7:19 pm

I'll be honest, Kaze: I'm still not impressed.

I'm glad you came back, and I'm glad you fixed the bugs. But the most important thing of all is that you finally explained what happened after all this time. The response you gave in this thread was rather non-chalant, like you basically said "meh, fixed it, we're done," and didn't resolve any of our questions. But you made up for it by posting what happened in the Forum Updates thread, so thank you very much for that.

However, I don't think it's fair to delete everything in Wynn's old section just because you fixed a bug or two. Many members, including myself, had personal and/or historic threads in that subforum that we now can never return to, and some of the threads in there did have Charmer-related posts and thus are still worthy of revisiting. And restricting all non-Charmer-related content to a single thread is practically like having no threads at all. I mean you said it yourself: it's just like the chatbox. ...So why should we post there when we can just use the chatbox? Right now, the only thing I see there is a replica of the Video Sharing thread, which we already had before and didn't need another one. At least if we had our old threads in Dharc's new section, and additionally have the ability to create new threads there, we would be able to give the forum a bit more life while still keeping the other Charmer sections more important.

Also, this was kinda no big deal before, but now that Wynn's section has become a Gallery, I don't see the point of the Charmers Cafe anymore. Just merge the two subforums and put them all under Wynn again. The content in the Cafe and in Wynn's Gallery is so similar that it's stupid to break them up, and by removing the Cafe you'll make the home page smaller thus easier to navigate.

This may come off as frustration (because it is lol), but I voice my opinions because I care. I think it's good that the forum can be more centered around Charmers, but deleting half the entire forum's content is not something to be proud of. And hey, we now know that new members couldn't join because of a bug, not that they didn't want to join because there's too much non-Charmer content. So that proves there was nothing wrong with the way things were Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Any ETA on the forum maintenance?   Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:46 pm

First of all, let's see why this forum is created and what's its purpose.

"Charmer Yu-Gi-Oh! Forum" Ok, you know it, basically a forum where its main discussion is about Charmers/YGO in general.

Q: Other forums/YGO Forum also have section to discuss other things, why our forum now only have one to discuss OOT topics, why the heck those subforums removed?
A: In other forums/YGO forum, typically the forum's main subject got constant/continuous update (whether its external done by the officials of the subject, or internal, made up by its members), this is true if you look at big forums, take an example of general YGO forum where officially there's a lot of YGO updates and there'll be always things to discuss. When compared to a very specific forum like Charmers YGO forum, where its main content/subject (Charmers) doesn't get constant update, that means there'll be less stuff to be talked about. Having a LOT of other subforums that discuss unrelated things not only making the forum a bit too crowded and looks like it tries to do everything, but it also make the forum encourages unrelated discussion (non Charmers), which is NOT the forum's main goal in first place. Since the forum's main goal is to discuss stuffs about Charmers, the forum need to be designed so priority will always be for them, so it sticks with its goal. It's kind of pointless having the name "Charmers Yu-Gi-Oh! Forum" if most of things discussed are nothing related to Charmers/YGO. I want the forum to stick to its name and its very specific theme without making the forum becomes way too free to discuss unrelated subject.

There's already a lot of other forums if you gonna discuss about things previously exists in Wynn's Corner, even then, you still have Chatbox to talk about unrelated stuffs with other members, and now there's single thread for it in Dharc's subforum. And to answer your question, what makes it different with chatbox then? Chatbox has its own purpose to directly talk with other members and if you chat a lot the archives will disappear. Therefore making chat only readable by those who previously online in right time, while the topic in Dharc's subforum allow indirect interaction and no archive wipe, making everything re-readable.

So, according to you it's stupid to break the content in Cafe and Wynn? While in reality Wynn's section still does the same thing like before when it comes to place about posting arts and FF (minus non-Charmer stuffs). Gallery and General Discussions are both different things, and since the forum is now designed to be more Charmer-ish it makes sense to have both separated because most of stuff are now about Charmers afterall. Even though both are about Charmers, but the stuff inside is discussion (Cafe) vs art/writing showoff (Wynn gallery), which by itself is already self explanatory.

Indeed there's nothing wrong having all of those stuffs in Wynn's section before. But, like I already stated, those aren't part of forum's goal. I want the forum to be more serious when it comes to its theme, Charmers. So by removing those, the forum becomes more specific and tidier to do its purpose.

I understand that you loooove this forum so much and really care about it (and that's very appreciated), so when there's removed contents you feel disappointed because that's the forum you used to visit and those contents might be too precious to be gone. And the Dharc's section having one thread is intended because if old topics are moved there then the update is pointless. I already explain all the reasons above and this forum is now designed to be more focused on its purpose. Any other non-Charmer discussions can be considered 'bonus'. You can still talk at people about anything you want like before, except now you do it in a single thread. It's intended to minimize unrelated stuffs so the forum can live up to its name, goal and purpose.

Since everything is settled and maintenance was done, then this topic is done and locked. I'm not gonna argue especially after you mention your frustration. I made changes for the sake of forum's theme and goal. Charmer Yu-Gi-Oh! Forum need to be active because its members discuss most stuffs about Charmers/YGO, not because it discuss things that can be discussed everywhere.

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